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. good morning, every. the big weather story has been the drought and the heat throughout much of texas. we were very encouraged that we could get a tropical storm that would head over texas and you can see that big red blob. this is tropical storm don. it does not appear that don will bring us the relieve that we need. houston probably won't see anything, corpus krissy christy some showers. it has tracked further south than we would have liked. you can see that the bapath is more north/northwest. we wanted to end up in central texas. it looks like it will rain itself out over northern mexico and the mountains and that will quickly break the storm up. so even west texas may not get the relief we were hoping for. landfall should be sometime close to midnight and then it will quickly be moving out. so in brownsville, by saturday morning, this could be over with. and it should be anywhere between a 50 to 65-mile-an-hour tropical storm. so at bit of a pump, but it won't do any devastation. we were hoping for rain. you can see the scattered showers off the coast that will be arriving during
about taxes and possible cuts to the big three. >>> and in wisconsin, we have a result in the state's first recall election since the scott walker union busting law was passed. the democrat, dave hansen, has defeated the republican challenger, another major victory for workers rights in wisconsin and in america. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. and we've got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> the gang of six plan rides again. bernie sanders gives the plan a huge thumb's down. he's here tonight. rupert murdoch plays dumb in front of parliament. >> i don't know. >> reminds me of a scene from the godfather. >> i don't know nothing about that. >> we have more on the news corp. dog and pony show. and the election results everyone is waiting for out of wisconsin. we will talk to the first member of the wisconsin 14 to face a recall election. >>> good evening, americans, thanks for joining us tonight. with less than two weeks before the united states defaults on its obli
more on that later. but we begin with the big fight in washington growing more desperate as the august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches. the key question this morning will we to see any progress this weekend? we go live to the white house for more. are they working this weekend and might we expect more progress here? >> reporter: we'll to see. there's a lot of closed door negotiations. that's the phase we're in now. we're a day closer to what many experts have called a financial catastrophe, six closed door meetings that they had in the west wing. the focus turns to congress. whether or not they can reach a deal on a dramatically scaled back version, not that grand bargain, something smaller but do it in time for august 2nd when the country is due to run out of cash. taking his case public for the second time in a week, president obama accused republicans of refusing to compromise. >> the problem is members of congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements. >> reporter: with the clock ticking towards w
republicans in this fight than grover norquist. he's here to dish on the debt and deal in taxes. and big money, big problems? mitt romney's campaign is debt free, but where is all that money coming from? we'll tell you why it could add up to a little bit of trouble for the republican front-runner. good morning, it's monday, july 18th, 2011. i'm chuck todd. just 15 days until default day. let's get right to my first reads of the morning. it's a week of public spectacle and private wrangling. efforts to get a big debt deal done has failed. >> when you look in the past at agreements between divided government, it's taken leadership on both sides. it took reagan and o'neil. it took clinton and gingrich. the president is out there. he's willing to do it. he said it in the state of the union, he said it in the budget. the question is, do we have a partner to work with? and i hope the answer to that is yes. >> this week we'll see a two-track process. publicly, leaders will get a few votes out of the way to allow conservatives to get on the record on a balanced budget amendment and set the table that
to remain. a big ridge of high pressure in control there and the drought will continue to worsen. it's not just the heat, it's also the storms. usually the big area of high pressure like you see on the map, you get storms to the north and east side of it. we'll see severe weather in the northeast and the coast guard still looking for two missing boaters out of chicago. they had gusts over 60 miles an hour in a storm and they overturned some of the boats in the water. back to you. >> heat still dangerous across the country in many places. >>> casey anthony has been a free woman for almost 35 hours, but where did she go and who is helping her as she transitions back into society? kerry sanders has the latest details shortly on that. >>> treasury secretary tim geithner speaking this morning that this morning specific items regarding the debt deal. one of the options that senators harry reid and mitch mcconnell or working on raising the debt ceiling in exchange for $1.5 trillion in cuts over ten years. this would also create a new congressional panel that would study ways to reduce the d
fitsity still. there's no legislative language. it looks like what could be a pretty big tax increase. the spending cuts i think are highly uncertain. it instructs the various committees of the senate and the house to come up with these spending cuts. we have no assurance that they will do that. we have no idea how they'll do that. then we asked the senate to vote on that. all of which suggests to me there are a number of ways in which this could fall apart. i give these guys all the credit in the world for really struggling and trying to make some progress on a tough issue. there's no assurance that it results in an outcome. if we can't agree on spending cuts now, why should we suppose at the end of this process which after all has been available to us for two years the senate won't even pass a budget, why we think that this will result in real spending cuts is not clear to me. >> the other dynamic here is the mcconnell-reid proposal. that is going to get to the floor at some point. now the idea of being that the gang of six proposal is too late to be scored by cbo to really be put i
company is too big to know the details of each business. there can be more tough questions ahead. the british prime minister david cameron has called a judiciary inquiry. they could be summoned for that. and some u.s. lawmakers want their own hearing on capitol hill. stephanie gosk, nbc news, london. >>> lawmakers finally appear to be making bipartisan progress in those ongoing divide over what to do about the debt limit. for the latest, we go to tracie potts in washington for us. good morning. >> reporter: lynn, good morning. just a glimmer of hope this morning from the so-called gang of six. three democrats and republicans who have been working together on a compromise. the plan on the table would cut $4 trillion from the deficit, lower taxes, but also bring in a trillion dollars in new revenues by closing tax loopholes. both sides seem to like it at least as a first step. president obama calling this a very significant step in line with what he's been working on at the white house. republicans saying it has good elements. they want to take a very close look at this. that after
late friday night into early saturday morning. there will be a landfall, it's not a big deal, with a weak storm system you're not going to have the eye of the hurricane or anything like that. it's just, that's when the center will cross. we'll watch that on radar. it looks like, houston, you're out of the cone of uncertainty. that's this yellow cone. it should come onshore around corpus christi or brownsville and then it will dissipate as it moves into the mountainous terrain. here's how the computer models, each of these squigly lines represents each computer, and an almost unanimous decision, it will take us south to corpus christi. only one of our computers is hinting on a northward's track. in the dark red, this is where we need the rainfall the most, so it's actually going to head for a beneficial area. the problem is, it's such a small tropical storm that it's not going to be a widespread, it's not going to hit a large area. it's only going to have a small impact. and ed why, talk about -- they would just like the clouds from this storm. with 101 in san antonio, 104 in
of different ways. by the way, this is no big secret, it's not like i'm telling you something other people can't figure out very easily. but if you have one phone call another phone it creates a busy line. if you use a third phone to call in, it goes directly to the voice mail and if you don't have a pin, it's very easy to get somebody's voice mail. >> we talked about at&t. how vulnerable are they to getting hacked and do we need to make pin numbers mandatory in order to keep all of our phones safe? >> i think that's something to think about. right now the onus is on the consumer, it's on us to be proactive with our mobile devices to put that pin on there. you think of your smartphone these days. it's really like a small laptop. in my face it's almost as big as a laptop. but you store so much personal information on there that really the companies should be doing more for users, i would say, because they're such an extension of ourselves. because there's such critical information on there. you know, i don't want to single out at&t too much because all of the wireless carriers are aware that th
witt. first off for you this hour the big fight in washington over spending and the debt limit. as that august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling grows closer. we go to the white house for more. >> reporter: good morning, richard. it's a day closer to what the president and many outside experts are calling a financial catastrophe and hope for a big deal, the so-called grand bargain appears to be all but lost. the action turns to congress and whether they can pass a scaled down version of debt reduction before the country runs out of cash. taking his case public for the second time in a week, president obama accused republicans of refusing to compromise. >> the problem is members of congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements. >> reporter: with the clock ticking towards what the president described as are a ma fw -- armageddon, he's hoping a deal could still be struck. >> but we got to get started now. that's why i'm expecting some answers from all the congressional leaders sometime in the next calm of da
're still fighting that fight? >> look, the big grand bargain is still on the table. that deal is there if the speaker wants to return to the table and negotiate it. we came very close. the president and the speaker did. and that opportunity still exists. secondly, the helpful proposal senator reid put out does not include up front the tough issues of entitlement reform or tax reform, it creates a committee that would look at those issues on a fast-track basis by the end of the year. that's not possible, we prefer one that does it all at once. however this turns out if we don't get the tough issues addressed because they're essential to address the deficits and long-term debt we're going to return to the debate. because the public supports a balanced approach. it's not the right way to do this if we don't ask sacrifice from everybody. not just one sector or a limited number of sectors from the society. >> let's listen to what the president said last night, to voice support for a bipartisan deal. let's listen. >> the american people may have voted for divided government, but the
. and right now we've got a government so big and so expensive it's sapping the drive out of our people and keeping our economy from running at full capacity. the solution to this crisis is not complicated. if you're spending more money than you're taking in, you need to spend less of it. >> it is so elementary and so simple for the republicans, isn't it? boehner's two-step approach is nothing but a joke. for republicans, it all starts and ends with defeating president obama and seeing him fail. just take a look at the title of boehner's plan, "two-step approach to hold president obama accountable"? president obama accountable? did he inherit this? hold it there for just a moment. boehner isn't trying to solve the debt crisis. this is all about making president obama fail. let's dive into boehner's two-step plan. here's number one. cuts that exceed the debt hike. number two, caps to control future spending. now, those two steps seem pretty reasonable. the problem? boehner's two-step plan, you see, really has three more steps to it. number three, a balanced budget amendment. now, let's t
news this morning. a big arrest in the ongoing brit hacking scandal. one of the people closest to the head of newscorp taken in by police. >>> and countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will this go down to the wire? good morning, everyone. i'm richard lui in for alex witt. welcome to "msnbc sunday." top of the hour four, after nearly three years behind bars casey anthony is a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail in orlando just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter caylee. outside the jail hundreds gathering carrying signs and protests of support -- or support, rather, of anthony. inside, one nbc news photojournalist was in the processing room when casey was released. he describes what happened. take a listen. >> she was just tunnel vision to the door. and that's when i think i saw that, you know, that smile or relief, if you will, because she saw freedom and she saw the exit door
people on board. it looks like right now they're headed in the right direction toward a big plan, exactly what the president wanted. lynn? >> brian, thanks so much. well, last night on "chris matthews," chris asked gang of six senators, mark warner what sets their deficit reduction plan apart from other proposals put forth by republicans? >> this is the first time we've seen a bipartisan plan that includes revenues, that, it really is comprehensive, it's bipartisan. it isn't perfect. but when the alternative is we're going to drive this country over the cliff, i think we've got to start with something that actually gets the job done, that gives us that comprehensive approach, and the fact that we had a whole lot of democrats and republicans yesterday saying, yeah, i'm ready to at least move to the next step, was a good sign. we've got to realize we're 13 days away from a default. we're 13 days away from an indirect tax increase with every american where their interest rates skyrocket and the government can't pay its bills. we've got to be responsible and get something done. if we can buil
'm thomas roberts. rupert murdoch will testify at parliament tomorrow, this is the big headline, all over the phone hacking scandal that's rocking his media scandal. meanwhile there was a new arrest of a top exec over the weekend, and now the head of scotland yard and his assistant are resigning. if you're keeping score so far, there have been three high-profile resignations, ten arrests and it is not over yet. jim maceda is live in london to bring us up to speed on this. jim, good morning. >> reporter: hi there, thomas. make that four high profile resignations. just a couple of hours ago scotland yard's number two, john yates, also resigned under increasing, extraordinary, really, pressure. that on the heels on his boss's resignation last night. commissioner paul stevenson, he was the head of scotland yard. he, if you will, fell on his sword and said that he could not in good conscience continue with all the challenges to keep the peace in great britain as he and specifically his relationship with the murdock media empire became such a focus of attention. he was calling it a major distra
that washington could be on the verge of its first-ever default. the big question now, how might wall street react this morning? >> it's unthinkable that this country will not meet its obligations on time. it's just unthinkable that we'd ever do that. >> reporter: a market slide could affect what you pay for mortgages, car loans, financing college. right now, washington is stuck on the timing. democrats and republicans want to tighten this up now. >> i don't think they have they choice. >> reporter: republicans want a short-term deal. cut $1 trillion now. and then, more cuts through the elections. >> and not some short-term gimmick. >> i know the president's worried about this next election. my god. shouldn't we be worried about the country? >> reporter: speaker boehner told conservatives to be ready to make compromises. >> if you break it, you own it. >> reporter: has the world been looking at all of this? one english official says right-wing nutters, as he calls them, in congress, are causing more of a problem for the economic economy than the crisis in europe. >>> the man accused in the massacr
. you have a big group of new freshman republican members in the house. they are not budging. they're not listening to just about anybody. it's -- they're going on what they believe is a mandate with this big tea party election in 2010 and they haven't really budged. you're seeing business leaders on wall street saying do something, do anything. this group of freshman republicans aren't really budging. will it have been an impact heez emails and phone calls, who knows. it may mean that house republican leaders have to shift away from what these small group of freshman republicans want. we'll see if it has an impact or not. there's not a whole lot of time left. >> indeed. thank you so much. we will be talking with nbc's chuck todd in a few minutes. >>> the first tropical system of the year has fizzled out. tropical storm don has weakened into a tropical depression. the storm made landfall along corpus christie. it brought little relief to the record breaking heat in the lone star state. here's with your saturday forecast bill karins. good saturday morning to you, bill. >> all the hy
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze these two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do >> i don't think he can do that, chris. when
. the big, brand new nbc "wall street journal" poll, and the revived gang of six which the white house is seizing on to give new life to the president's push for a big deficit reduction deal. the bipartisan group's proposal is still in outline form. they would reduce the deficit by 3.7 trillion over the next decade, cutting discretionary spending, defense spending, overhauling entitlement programs, rewriting the tax code by lowering rates, getting rid of deductions that overall would generate a trillion dollars in those deficit cuts. the plan got an enthusiastic reception from the white house and senate rank and file. watch. >> we now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. we have got the american people who agree with that balanced approach. >> 49 senators came to the room, and you know what, there were no fist fights, there were no -- there was no swearing. >> i think they're creating a vital center on what is the most important issue facing the country. >> it is a great start and it has provided great leadership. >>> but senate leaders mitch mccon
deadline still fast approaching, the big question, will we see any progress so the u.s. will not default on its bills? nbc's mike vick kwer are at the white house. >> reporter: raising interest rates, people not getting checks, veterans affairs, in the course of each and every month. that's what's at stake here, the government would have to start to prioritize and major credit agencies are already talking about downgrading treasury bonds and the wisdom of investing in those. today, more dualing back and forth, the president in his weekly address, orrin hatch speaking for republicans, here's what they had to say about the state of play. >> i don't think oil companies should get tax breaks when they're getting tens of millions of profits. i don't think hedge fund managers should make more in bonuses than their secretaries salary. >> it was a crime of the president to submit and for congress to pass -- the only reason that congressional democrats would refuse to pass it because they know that the people of this country would rise up and quickly ratify it. >> there you see orrin hatch from u
>>> two big developing stories. gone to parts unknown, casey anthony, the florida woman acquitted of murder free from custody just after midnight today. we'll hear about the scene outside of the jail and talk to someone who was inside when anthony left. plus, where might she be right now? >>> the other developing story, countdown to a deal. new reports that the president and congressional leaders may meet today to try to hammer out a debt ceiling agreement. will that happen soon or go down the wire? good morning, i'm richard lui. alex witt is off today. welcome to msnbc sunday. topping our hour we'll start with casey anthony. after nearly three years behind bars she's a free woman this morning. the 25-year-old was released from jail just after midnight eastern time 12 days after she was acquitted of murder in the death of her daughter. outside of the jail hundreds gathered, carrying signs of protest or support of anthony. inside one nbc photo news journalist was in the procession room when casey was released. he described what happened. >> she was just total vision through the doo
and bill say that big manufacturers are starting to take notice of this new supply chain approach. they see it as an alternative drishs channel to the big box stores which control much of the industry. >> the manufacturers see bath simple as a way to open up a whole new channel for how they sell their product. they're stuck in the home depot, lowe's channel, it's a big channel, but a low margin, it's dangerous to have one big customer. we sell to the contractors out there and they get it very quickly. >> consumers, too, are taking notice. the online design software makes the selection process faster and easier than the traditional chore of running from store to store. >> i have three middle school kids. and i just don't have to time. this whole idea intrigued me with bath simple. that's how i got started with that. >> from the manufacturers to the contractors to the consumer to the retail chains they see this as a new way of doing something that's been done for a long time the old way. >> rethinking and reinventing an approach to a business can make you stand out from the crowd. let's turn
going on behind the scenes, no big meetings today, the president in his weekly address today laid out the stakes and again called for share sacrifice and that means in the white house, you're raising taxes on the wealthy. >> the truth is, you can't solve our deficit without cutting spending, but you also can't solve it without asking the wealthiest americans to may their fair share or without taking on loopholes that give special interests and big corporations tax breaks that middle class americans don't get. >> reporter: now those taxes that the president are talking about, a nonstarter with republicans, that is a sticking point. that is the impasse, the hurdle that they simply cannot clear. in the meantime, republicans are moving ahead in congress with a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. it is very much a long shot. they're moving ahead, here's orrin hatch explaining why. >> the only reason this administration doesn't want a constitutional amendment is because they want to keep spending the american people's money. and the only reason congressional democrats would refus
. if you do nothing, you have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> h
to the caricature, the republican caricature of the president as a big spender if, in the end, he puts together a deal with speaker boehner that has with it a lot of spending cuts? >> i think that changes certainly for the democrats the argument about the president's spending habits. certainly republicans then would counter with, well, let's look at the $2 trillion spent before speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and the senate tried to bring some sanity back to the process. you're going to have the political argument continuing into 2012. if you think, michael, this thing is going to end once they sign a bill by august 2nd, no. the hot rhetoric just continues. >> you know this turf well. it puts republicans in a difficult spot to be pointing a finger as to he's such a big government guy if, in the end he 'em bragsed and negotiated a plan with john boehner that calls for the spending cuss being discussed, whether it's $3 trillion or $4 trillion. let me show you something. the president penned something in "usa today." i don't know if you made it to the last line. here is what he said in the las
're going to start with the big event in washington growing more desperate as the august 2nd deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches. the key question will we see any progress this weekend. this as president obama warns that failure to take action could lead to serious financial fallout. >> we don't need a constitutional amendment to do our jobs. the constitution already tells us to do our jobs. we don't need more studies. we don't need more a balanced budget amendment. we simply need to make these tough choices and be willing to take on our bases. >> the republicans say they have a new long-term fix. a new amendment to the u.s. constitution. let's go straight to aaron mcpike. an issue of what is at stake today. a reporter with real clear pricks. what is this budget amendment? before we get to that, i want to show people what is at stake in terms of the numbers. $23 billion in social security payments. that's a payment that's on the united states' credit card bill. $87 billion that's another number that's being watched. august 15th also will come due $30 billion in interest paym
>>> good wednesday everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. the big story we're watching right now, debt, deficit, downgrade, deadlock. there's six more days until the august 2nd debt default deadline. really, does anybody think there's going to be a deal? >> it can pass the house and pass the senate. i hope the president will consider signing it into law. >> the speaker's proposal cannot pass the senate, will not reach the president's desk. >> another day, another delay as washington tries to come up with a debt deal. today's breaking news a bipartisan group did the math on both the duelling democratic and republican debt plans and both come up short on their projected savings goals. democrats put their bill on hold. while republicans scramble to rewrite theirs. >> things are very fluid. >> today's house vote tabled while gop leaders try to get reluctant freshman on board. >> i want a solution, not a deal. i don't think this goes far enough. >> does this keep us in the battle. >> john boehner has a group of people that believe their way is the correc
now, august 2nd is the big date, and the hard deadline or the u.s. default defaults on the $14.3 trillion debt. the white house says that lawmakers need a basic plan in place by today if they are going to be able to craft a bill in time to avert a default. nbc's kristen welker is following all of this for us live at the white house. kristen, good afternoon. where do we go from here? what is the bottom line? a lot of talking from the white house and the republicans and where does it all stand and what is next? >> hi, there, jeff. house speaker john boehner and president obama are saying that they are not close to a deal, but there has certainly been a lot of chatter about a potential deal. here is what it would look like. it would involve $3 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade. it would include immediate cus s to discretionary spending right off of the top, and then over time, you'd see some changes in entitlements things like social security and medicare and also some changes to the tax code including a roll back for tax breaks for the wealthy americans and the
the two minnesotans continues. tim pawlenty went after michele bachmann. >> there's a big difference in talking about things and getting them done. >> this is the third day in a row where we have seen tim pawlenty heat up in his rhetoric against michele bachmann. it's clearly trying to set up the two of them as they go mono on mono for this straw poll. what is interesting, there was a republican debate before the straw poll that takes place in iowa. so instead of everyone going after mitt romney, it's clear that there's going to be a little mini debate going on. all of that in the shadow of what is going on with rick perry and chris christie showing up. lots to go through. we're going to get to that later in the show. let's get to the big story. there's one week left to raise the debt ceiling. two sides feel like they are farther apart than ever. serving on the budget committee, senator, let's start with what is on the table. can you support harry reid's plan as it stands right now in the united states senate? >> no. but i don't think that we're that far apart, chuck. if you take the
's go now to washington. it's big news inside the beltway today. the latest debt deal broke down last night, but in just less than two hours now, lawmakers are iffing to be back at the white house to restart negotiations. the talks fell apart last night when john boehner walked away from the table blaming the white house for the failure. well, the president pointeded a finger at the gop. the two appeared at back to back news conferences. >> it is hard to understand why speaker boehner would walk away from this kind of deal if it was unbalanced, it was unbalanced in the direction of not enough revenue. the sdmroo the white house moved the goal post. there was an agreement with the white house and $800 billion in re new. it's the president who walked away from his agreement and demanded more money at the last minute. >> well, joining me now nbc white house correspondent mike vicara. good morning to you, mike. what is the big sticking point here? how did things go wrong so fast, or is that only our perception of it? >> yeah, you know, you are absolutely right. it just collapsed. these te
. >>> the big business of gay marriage. one day before same sex couples tie the knot in new york, how some companies are planning to cash in. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alex witt. welcome to msnbc saturday. we have two developments in two deadly attacks carried out in norway that left 91 people dead. police have one man in custody suspected in both attacks. one was a bomb set off in downtown oslo, and the other happened not long after when a gunman went on a shooting spree at a teen summer camp at an island outside of oslo. martin fletcher joins me on the phone from oslo. martin, let's talk about what police are revealing about the suspect. what do they know? >> reporter: well, alex, he's 32 years old, and he's a norwegian. interestingly on his facebook page he updated his facebook page just a week ago, and on that he called himself a conservative and he called himself a christian and he said his favorite hobby was hunting. so this paints a picture of a man who seems to be -- well, how can you describe such a person? radical of some kind. the police are saying it looks like it was the
's going to play pretty big hardball on this to borrow a phrase, chris. seems to me he really is boehner's back. not just having boehner's back today or boehner's back tomorrow, but he's going to have boehner's back. the question is, can harry reid pry away seven or eight republicans to work with him? where does that happen? at this point i don't think you'll see any movement on a deal publicly, at the earliest, not until sunday. >> is the real fear not that there's a second effort to cut spending a bit more, but the second part of this spending cuts which would come at the end of this year, the vote on that, would actually cut to the bone. go after entitlements, medicare, after things the democrats treasurer jer is that the big fear? i think pelosi, former speaker, now democratic leader, was alluding to that in her very strong statement against the boehner plan tonight? >> reporter: that is one fear. you talk to democrats familiar with the way these negotiations have gone, and they'll say, look, this first $1.2 2r8 trillion, the first round ever cuts they have in their plans are almost
to other states and has been trying in a very big way of spreading the gospel of making it harder to vote all across the country. not just in kansas, but everywhere. earlier this week chris coback wrote urging politicians in other states to do what he and sam brownback have done in kansas, the case republicans broadly make for the urgent need for these new make it harder to vote laws is that voter fraud is wide spread across the country and a real threat. as evidence, there were 221 incidents of voter fraud reported in kansas between 1997 and 2010. seven of which yielded convictions. that's the evidence. 13 years, 7 convictions. convictions? detailed in a report from mr. coback's office in kansas. they consist of the following. one instance of electioneering, so campaigning too close to a polling place and six incidents of double voting, people voting in kansas or another state or two different counties in kansas. again, the seven convictions that are evidence to make voting harder is one case of electioneering and six cases of double voting. here's the thing, whether or not those seven c
big? what would you get rid of? >> i was one of the folks last week who introduced an amendment that said, let's at least freeze defense spendsing. it's not a very popular thing for a republican to do. i like defense, it's important to me. we only got 65 democrats and only 70 republicans. i'm willing to put everything on the table to be serious about spending reductions. >> what do we do about the big entitlements that go through the roof as people get older and older. you can't limit the number of people turning 65 by law. how do you deal with the cost increase? >> let's start by being honest with ourselves. i think the president did that this week. if you read his veto message about cut, cap and balance, he says the only reasons he opposes a balanced budget amendment is that it prevents us from keeping our promises to the seniors. what he's saying is what we have been telling folks back home, you cannot balance the budget without changing medicare, medicaid and social security. you simply can't do it. the folks back home tell you they want a balanced budget amendment. >> but t
this thing? this big cut, cap and balance has nothing in it. i had a hunch it wouldn't be in there. i did something that nobody is doing in your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? >> senator coburj introduced a plan -- >> it's not the coburn plan. it's the bumper sticker. >> the house has a plan. >> why do you keep saying this? >> chris, chris -- >> have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know there's something in there -- i'm reading it right now and -- >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. it's vapor, there is no plan, because there's no leadership. >> todd, the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts over the -- >> there is no plan. >> that was a hostage video, and he is being held hostage by the tea party republicans. >>> let's go to the outlet pass as they say in football. president clinton has weighed in. he writes, quote, clinton says he would invoke the so-called constitutional option to raise the nation's debt ceiling, quote, without hesitation and force the courts to s
writes, get this, $80 million different checks. for everything from big ticket items like social security, veterans benefits, and nondefense contracts, to smaller payouts, to folks who are, for example, victims of black lung disease, or people who are railroad retirement board pensioneers. it's 80 million checks every single month. and, again, only about half the money they'll need to make good on all of those payments. so what does treasury do? who gets paid? who doesn't? laid out a possible scenario in which the treasury department only pays the following bills in august. interest on our debts, social security benefits, medicare and medicaid, defense contracts, and unemployment benefits. just paying those bills, just those, not everything we owe, just those, brings us to about $172 billion. which if you'll remember is all the money that they will have on hand. if only those programs get paid, here, my friends, is what doesn't get paid. military pay for active duty soldiers, veterans affairs programs, salary and benefit for federal employees, department of education, food services for lo
at the white house, there were eight. it came out in the open at one point that group was too big. even eight of the top congressional leaders, too unmanageable and too unwielding. harry reid and nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell from the senate and john boehner who has been the president's chief interlocker over the several weeks. the question is can they pick up the pieces after the deal crashed and burned, the so-called grand bargain last night? ak moneyy back and forth. the president accusing house speaker john boehner of not returning telephone calls. the target is always moving, and moving the goalpost particular eye the issue of taxes, alex. john boehner said we had an deal on $800 billion in revenues. similar to analogous to taxes in washington speak. over the course of ten years, i've got more on my blackberry at this moment. the president came back to the republicans earlier in the week after getting an earful from democrats after seeing a rival plan emerge in the senate that had higher tax revenues. they blame that for kind of messing this whole thing up, fouling up the whole deal,
're going to see something between the reid and boehner plans, the big difference is the boehner plan forces us to raise the debt ceiling again and forces us to accept a $1.8 trillion or more in cuts from the so-called super commission, and if we don't do it, we go through another crises. also a vote on the budget amendment. i think you could get something more rationalal to incentivize another plan down the road and have something with enough pressure coming from the markets, both parties could vote for. >> you make it sound like if reasonable people had a conversation about this there might actually be a solution, so thanks for being on and talking with us today. >> glad to be here. >> that was ezra klein, columnist for "the washington post" and bloomberg and also an msnbc policy analyst. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> now, ask yourself, would you -- no, not you, nancy. would you want john boehner's job right now, trying to placate a gaggle of angry tea partiers and stave off an economic calamity at the same time? i suspect there are moments even he doesn't want this job, but he's got it
anywhere between 80 to 100 members who are saying no. the road to 216 really becomes a big story if this is the deal. >> luke russert, thank you for telling it like it is. >> take care. >> for more on where the debt debate stands, check out the white house with david plouffe. it will reair on "meet the press" on 2:00 p.m. right here. >>> the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff admiral mike mullen told soldiers in kandahar if talks fail they still have to fight but might not get paid. >> plenty of you live paycheck to paycheck if paychecks stop, it can have a devastating impact pretty quickly. >> and then there at camp leather neck, mullen told marines, all services face cutbacks in size and possibly as well in military benefits. >>> as you heard from nbc's luke russert, the reaction is mixed on capitol hill to reports on the white house that the gop has reach aid deal. with signs of dissent on the left and right in the house of representatives. joining me now is eddie berniece from texas. good morning. where do you stand on things this morning? what are you hearing overall? >>
some big structural changes to how things work. giving them credit for that. what they say really derailed this is when the gang of six came back. that group of bipartisan senators working for months on their own deal. they were considered to be own the side lines. they burst back on the scene tuesday with a package that differs from what the white house and speaker boehner had been talking bp gop aids say then the white house pulled back. and began to change its demands and change what it wanted. so speaker boehner is saying yes, the white house was willing to change the tax code but then came back and wanted to do things that would have left the possibility for cuts in some of the spending. but not the kind of package that they had talked about. basically it gets complicated. i won't go into all of the weeds but they walked us through many steps of where they say the white house pull pulled back app at that point they felt they had nowhere to go. for example they talked about having a change in the tax code cho would lower rates. after the gang of six they said the wlous no long
house back to the table, back to talking about something big. now, look, we still got a long ways to go. it's a weekend of sales jobs going on right now that actually began last night when the president had the congressional democratic leadership over to start talking turkey. so that brings us to the other sticking point, the actual substance. everybody has to figure out what to cut. this isn't going to be as easy as folks think and both sides are moving toward a deal that would include a trigger to assure mutually destructive politically when it comes to the two big items being kicked to committees or joint committees and that's still being figured out, tax and entitlements. one incentive plan would kill bush tax cuts for the rich and key portions of the new health care law if somehow the reforms for the tax code and social security and medicare weren't agreed to and implemented by january 1st, 2013. the question is, is the penalty on the bush tax cuts sort of the idea that you're kicking this down, is that going to be enough to assuage some democrats who believe there's too many cuts
's an empty piece of paper and you're bragging about this thing? this big cut cap and balance has nothing in it, and i was amazed. i had a hunch it wouldn't be there. got copy of it. actually did something nobody dmog your house, in the republican side, reading it. there are no cuts here. where are the cuts? it doesn't say anything. go ahead. >> senator coburn introduced a plan that was extraordinarily detailed. >> it's not coburn plan, todd. >> it's the bumper sticker being voted on. >> the house has plan. coburn has a plan. >> have you read this, todd? have you read this? have you read it? >> no, i haven't read it. >> how do you know you're saying there's something in here and i'm reading it. >> at least you're holding on to something. this is the president's plan. right here. this is it. nothing. it's vapor. there is no plan, because there's no leadership. period. >> the president's plan outlines $4 trillion in cuts. >> there is no plan. >> to the speaker's credit, she being held hostage by tea party republicans. >> let's go to the outlet as they say in football. the outlet pass. forme
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